. >> and i say obama care does nothing to attack the core problem which is pricing, which is why obama care was able to pass. >> and the republicans won't like it because i say the only efficient player in this marketplace is medicare. >> rose: it's the only efficient player yet a lot of people look at medicare and say it is the cost element of entitlements that will bankrupt the country. >> well, what's going to bankrupt the country is the continuation of what we have today. medicare, the situation i describe where you know someone pays-- well if you look at the-- the md anderson cancer centre is charging 1.5 for generic aspirin tylenol pill am you can buy them on amazon for 1.5 cents. >> rose: exactly. you can buy it on amazon for 1.5 cents and your hospital marks it up you say here 10,000 percent. >> but not to medicare because medicare is ordered by congress only to pay hospitals for their cost, their actual costs including their overhead and everything else. so medicare takes the position in this particular case that if you are paying 1791 a day for your room at md anderson which